https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9yaXNlbm1vdGhlcmhvb2QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M/episode/MTk3YTY4MTEtMmZjMS00YTJkLTllZGEtZmYzN2FhNzFkYTMx?ep=14

“Liturgy of the Ordinary”, Tish Warren quote: “If we are ever peacemakers, it is not without a good deal of war in our hearts.”