The Popaganda Podcast

Pee-Wee as Himself


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Fascism trains us to shrink. Pee-wee shows another path: bold, maximal, unashamed. What can Paul Reubens teach us about refusing to comply in advance?

In this episode, hosts Shannon Perez-Darby and Tashmica Torok discuss the pressure to get small under rising Fascism—and how Paul Reubens, through Pee-wee Herman, modeled color, camp, and audacity anyway. From 70s/80s performance-art roots to TV fame, we trace what it means when a persona eclipses a person, how moral panic + policing criminalize marginalized people, and why maximalist self-expression is not a luxury but a practice of selfhood as resistance.

Pop Culture Homework:

  • Watch: Pee-wee as Himself (HBO), dir. Matt Wolf.


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The Popaganda PodcastBy Shannon Perez-Darby & Tashmica Torok