An interview with "Occupy the Web" by David Bombal, discussing the Pegasus spyware. The speakers explain that Pegasus, initially for iOS but now on Android, is a powerful surveillance tool used by governments globally. They highlight its capability to infiltrate phones with zero or minimal user interaction, allowing access to messages, contacts, and device functions, raising significant privacy and human rights concerns. The conversation also touches on the zero-day exploit industry and the difficulty in detecting and preventing such sophisticated malware.