Pen tells us about Pen Tools, a password stealer detector he wrote, user interfaces, the warez scene and more. We jump around a bit in this episode (between AOL and not AOL). Also, unfortunately the interview was cut short.

Guest: Pen

Host: Steve Stonebraker

CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold.

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