Penny Holliday is Head of Marine Physics and Ocean Climate at the National Oceanography Centre. She joins us to discuss her research in physical oceanography, leadership in science, and the nature of short-term and long-term research contracts.

You can follow Penny on Twitter @np_holliday

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