This week Andrew is joined by Penny Terry, award-winning host of Get Psyched, Rule of Thumb and The Penny Drop. In 2021, Get Psyched, produced in collaboration with Headspace Launceston and Healthy Australia, won 'best wellbeing podcast' at the Australian podcast awards. Penny's other podcast, Rule of Thumb, produced by the Women's Legal Service of Tasmania, won bronze in the best lockdown podcast award.

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