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“People are waiting for change, so there is a huge expectation”
In April, eight million Hungarians will vote in an election whose results will resound across Europe and the US. For the first time in 15 years, MAGA icon Viktor Orbán looks beatable – at the hands of Orbánist defector Péter Magyar.
Have you been deranged by a decade of Trumpism? Do you need a nail-biting battle over the future of liberal democracy, but without Orange Man? If so, this is the podcast series for you. Dropping every Sunday between now and election night in Hungary, we bring you the latest campaign news plus expert guests covering politics, economics, history and culture.
This week’s guest is Gábor Bojár, one of Hungary’s richest men – a “red baron” who supports the opposition and welcomes a wealth tax. Under Orbán’s crony capitalism, “a lot of entrepreneurial spirit is killed or depressed,” he says. “So, a lot of energy can be freed and … it can happen easily because people are waiting for change, so there is a huge expectation, just like the expectation which happened at the time of the system changing in ‘89”.
“I do not feel that, from his soul, Péter Magyar would be a liberal democrat. He is not. But he will do what the people want, and we want liberal democracy,” says Bojár, reassured by Magyar’s choice of shadow ministers for finance, foreign affairs, and energy. But could he be just another Orbán? “There is a risk. No question, this risk is there, but at least there is a chance … If Orbán stays, it’s sure”.
Gábor Bojár founded Graphisoft as a two-man firm in 1982 under communism; by the time he sold it in 2007, it was a global leader in 3D building-modelling software. Worth more than €80 million today, according to Forbes, Bojár oversees the Aquincum Institute of Technology (AIT), which he founded.
Twenty-Four Two, hosted by Tim G. Jones and Pepijn Bergsen, is a podcast from 242.news - newsletter focused on the remaking of Europe since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine on 24/2/2022.
This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit twentyfourtwo.substack.com
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By 242.newsIn April, eight million Hungarians will vote in an election whose results will resound across Europe and the US. For the first time in 15 years, MAGA icon Viktor Orbán looks beatable – at the hands of Orbánist defector Péter Magyar.
Have you been deranged by a decade of Trumpism? Do you need a nail-biting battle over the future of liberal democracy, but without Orange Man? If so, this is the podcast series for you. Dropping every Sunday between now and election night in Hungary, we bring you the latest campaign news plus expert guests covering politics, economics, history and culture.
This week’s guest is Gábor Bojár, one of Hungary’s richest men – a “red baron” who supports the opposition and welcomes a wealth tax. Under Orbán’s crony capitalism, “a lot of entrepreneurial spirit is killed or depressed,” he says. “So, a lot of energy can be freed and … it can happen easily because people are waiting for change, so there is a huge expectation, just like the expectation which happened at the time of the system changing in ‘89”.
“I do not feel that, from his soul, Péter Magyar would be a liberal democrat. He is not. But he will do what the people want, and we want liberal democracy,” says Bojár, reassured by Magyar’s choice of shadow ministers for finance, foreign affairs, and energy. But could he be just another Orbán? “There is a risk. No question, this risk is there, but at least there is a chance … If Orbán stays, it’s sure”.
Gábor Bojár founded Graphisoft as a two-man firm in 1982 under communism; by the time he sold it in 2007, it was a global leader in 3D building-modelling software. Worth more than €80 million today, according to Forbes, Bojár oversees the Aquincum Institute of Technology (AIT), which he founded.
Twenty-Four Two, hosted by Tim G. Jones and Pepijn Bergsen, is a podcast from 242.news - newsletter focused on the remaking of Europe since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine on 24/2/2022.
This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit twentyfourtwo.substack.com