Perfection: Mistakes Included, begins with a question. Did the historical person, Jesus ben Joseph of Nazareth actually exist and if so, What kind of evidence is there and how reliable is it? Can we look for the person of Jesus without the trappings of divinity? You may be wondering about the title of this conversation if we are looking for a historical person. How does Perfection include mistakes? Is it actually perfect if there are mistakes? Who's perfection are we talking about? For those who are struggling with their faith or in the process of deconstructing the toxic religious systems they grew up with, is there a way to understand Easter without the need for death and atonement? These are all questions we look at in this conversation. Listen and find out if it's possible for mistakes to be included the idea of "Perfection".