This week, JB and Ant talk perfectionism! Are you one of those leaders who shy away from taking risks or doing things differently for fear of it not being spot on? Are you someone that just can't cope with anything less than perfect?! 

Finally the duo are joined (for the last 20 minutes) by Vicky Cousins, a safeguarding expert talking about what we need to do as leaders to look out for concerns in the workplace. 

That and your listener questions!