On this week’s Hot Cup with the Campbells, Jamie and Jessica discuss how they embrace the philosophy of being “perfectly imperfect,” inspired by a visit to Vikingsholm on their honeymoon in Lake Tahoe.

Jamie gives his review of the book Cinderella Man, about the greatest upset in boxing history, Jessica quizzes us on our memories of Publisher’s Clearinghouse and they go down a Mandela Effect rabbit hole. Jamie also recommends treating yourself this autumn by trying an unconventional recipe for Pumpkin Chili.