Sam Ward is Director of Ministry for the Message Trust which is a Manchester based charity reaching urban areas, you head up the Eden Network and The Message Missions Teams and has been involved with Eden for 22 years!

I ask him where Jesus is in the permacrisis, hope and garden gnomes.

With grateful thanks to Owen O'Brien for his music and the permission to use it:

Living in the shadow (feat. Samu'el)

from Let Him Reign by Owen O'Brien