Learning to work in harmony with nature, rather than against it, is incredibly important if we’re to halt and reverse the damage we’ve done to Earth’s climate. But this is something we’ve realised over the years - catastrophic climate change was never the intention. But with the benefit of hindsight, and the chance to start fresh, how would we reimagine our societies to build a better relationship with the natural world?

Geoff Lawton is the founder of the Permaculture Research Institute. In this episode he tells us how the conscious design philosophy of Permaculture is helping people reconnect with and give back to nature, to create sustainable, stable and thriving ecosystems.

Your host is Ollie Guillou. Follow him on Twitter, and find out more about OG Podcasts here.