Off the Clock

Personal Branding and Thought Leadership for Lawyers


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Episode Summary:

In this episode, Gwen and Whitney speak with lawyer coach, Steve Fretzin, about how lawyers can create a law practice that truly supports their life. Steve shares practical strategies for qualifying clients, saying “no” with confidence, and focusing on meaningful, profitable work. He also highlights the importance of community, mindset, and becoming a student of both the practice and business of law.

Key Timestamps:

00:00 – Breaking up with the billable hour and redefining law firm success.

02:10 – Why charging can reduce client no-shows.
05:00 – How to choose the right clients and say “no” gracefully.
07:45 – Recognizing when to let go and protect your time.
10:00 – The role of peer groups in navigating uncertainty.
13:30 – Becoming a student of marketing and leadership.
16:00 – Why helping others defines long-term success.
19:00 – How he’s using content to teach lawyers modern growth strategies.

About the Show:

Off the Clock is the podcast for lawyers and law firm owners ready to break free from the billable hour and build a profitable, fulfilling, and client-loving practice. Hosted by Gwen Griggs and Whitney Harper, each episode explores stories and strategies that help legal professionals thrive on their own terms.

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