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Perspectives from Aotearoa: A conversation with Ngaroma Williams


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What if innovation in early childhood education isn’t about the new—but about returning to the wisdom of the past?

In this powerful episode, Māori educator and researcher Ngaroma Williams invites us to rethink “pedagogical innovation” through an indigenous lens. With over 40 years of experience, she shares how land, language, and ancestral knowledge shape truly transformative education in Aotearoa. From climate change projects guided by lunar cycles to reimagining teacher training in mainstream settings, this episode is a call to listen, unlearn, and reconnect.

Place matters. Language matters. Relationships matter.

Tune in to a conversation rooted in respect, resistance, and radical care.

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