In this conversation with Brent, Pete reflects on his time as Under Secretary of the Army and Secretary of the Army under two administrations, and as a member of the U.S. House of Representatives—and how those experiences have shaped his leadership today as President of the Sid W. Richardson Foundation. Pete and Brent discuss how politics have changed over the years and how to create meaningful change within government and large bureaucracies, particularly those responsible for education. They also talk about who Sid Richardson was and the foundation that bears his name.