Jayce and James sat down with Peter Andrastek from Evangelical Catholic at the 2025 Discipleship Conference for the Archdiocese of Oklahoma City to draw a bright line between ministry and apostolate and then show how to form the laity to live mission where life actually happens. Peter from Evangelical Catholic helps us imagine parishes as workshops for friendship, holiness, and real-world witness.

Learn more about Peter and Evangelical Catholic here: https://evangelicalcatholic.org/ 

• ministry as public, structured service tied to holy orders
• apostolate as outward mission flowing from baptism and confirmation
• reducing mission to volunteering as a common trap
• mission ready friendship as a practical path for evangelization
• training versus lifelong formation and conversion
• lay co responsibility and the laity’s office in the world
• building parish imagination beyond programs
• start with faithful, available, teachable, normal people
• resources for forming laity in everyday mission

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