Visual artist Peter London grew up in Brooklyn NY, which perhaps makes him a city kid. But for his entire life, he has been obsessed with escaping the limitations of cities and human perception, seeking insights not from other humans, but from the natural world. He sees the cosmos as the ultimate teacher for all of us. In our conversation, we discuss a wide range of topics, from how one's artistic process can imitate the cosmos, to his involvement with civil rights in the 1960's, to the fascinating intersection of his work as an artist, teacher, and art therapist. We also discuss his collaborations with musicians and why he sees music as the most emotional of the arts.

This is the FIRST episode recorded face-to-face; you can see video on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXJjWPNCl6e_ujBOxUniEAA