In this episode, I speak with Peter Sutoris. Peter is a development professional, researcher, writer and educator, who spent a decade working on issues of education, health and social development. Peter is the author of the article "Anthropocene skills need to be at the centre of curricula" and the author of two books: Visions of Development, about the history development policy in India, and Educating for the Anthropocene, about the refocussing of education interventions needed in the face of the current environmental crisis. We discuss:

• Breaking away from the meritocratic narrative to imagine our possible futures,

• How following the blueprint for success may be a threat to the planet as well as ourselves,

• How education is not the same thing as schooling.

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