Do you root for the tortoise or the hare? This week turtles get their due as Bob interviews Lisa Frankland, the secretary of the Rio Grande Turtle and Tortoise Club [http:// www.rgttc.org]. Lisa talks about turtles as pets, including her Ornate Box Turtles and Red Eared Sliders, plus her Bearded Dragon and Kenyan Sand Boa. You’ll want a turtle of your own after spending a few minutes with Lisa. After the interview, Bob asks his wife Linda, how many mistakes can he make in a single show? Listen to his ‘outtakes’ with Lisa, and grit your teeth as he blunders even more. Why is this man on Internet radio? Because, clearly, he doesn’t belong on the airwaves.

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