In this episode, Phil describes his business journey and how he found the focus that made him successful. After struggling for several years, he was ready to quit - but he didn't.

He shares some of the most important steps he took to reach his goals. One of those steps was taking up improv, which has given him more empathy for himself and his clients.

It has allowed him to let go and stop getting in his own way. He's been able to bring this approach to his students and clients as well - to help them relax and enjoy learning.

 

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