Episode 84 features part two of a two-part conversation with Philip Clift about C.W. Leadbeater and his book "The Chakras". He begins by defining the vital force and the serpent fire and then explaining a little about each one and how they connect to the chakras but are different in essence. He also describes what the 3 spinal channels are. Next we talk about how we absorb vitality and how it affects our physical health. Towards the end, we discuss some practical ways that people can connect and work with this information.