Welcome to a conversation with Luis, Rami, David, and Jairo. We cover being, non-being, the mind, the dipole between attraction and repulsion, ataraxia, some political and religious trends, and lots of prodding to keep each other honest. We strive to seek and develop whatever skills, tools, and knowledge may help us along our journey in life, or at least to remind us of how to lead a better life. I hope you enjoy this one. I really appreciate everyone who participated. It made my stay in the hospital for COVID-19 more bearable.