Taking a look back at a significant effort in trying to get ones head around this topic. Tackling peoples quite innocent misconceptions about science some arise in part from a retelling of convenience of the philosophical origin of ideas, and leaves out that some of the story in embedded in our culture. I look at the various stages in my approach. First the reading of the first 40 or so philosophers, then a deeper reading of the modern foundation philosophers, then looking at common themes like interpretation, methodologies and devices such as Utopian models. I concluded by wondering if the Utopian model as embodied by the United States is the final word for "rejected" or "nearly as good" cultures such as Australia. MP4 recording     MP3 recording -- -- Your browser does not support the audio element.