On this episode we unpack some @matthiasjbarker tiktok videos about the importance of being direct with your partner & children, why we need to be picking fights, & how you may actually be coming across to others when trying to sugar-coat your requests.

Brandon opens up about the exact moment he realized he was a condescending prick and how that realization has changed the way he speaks to others.

When the couple shifts gears to talk about the transition from survival mode to thrive mode Kayla is confronted about her frugal ways, such as methodically measuring out tin foil and saving every unused centimeter for later use.