It's a bonus episode! We start discussing Discovery's "Vulcan Hello" but get sidetracked into a loooong conversation about design and technology on the show. Holograms, how do they work? Klingons, how do they be? While Emmanuel continues to not word good-we're thinking of giving him speech lessons-he remains surprisingly open minded about all the aesthetic changes the show has made. Tangents include: Khan miniseries (?!); prophets vs messiahs; motorcycle migrations. Pt 2 will be actual review!