In today's episode we are joined by LEGENDARY Craig Trumbower to discuss old stories, Pine Snakes, Bull Snakes and Gopher Snakes, and of course Craig's new book!

This was an incredible opportunity to speak to someone who is not only passionate and knowledgeable- but someone who has had an immense positive impact on herpetoculture as a whole.

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