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- 32. You're Allowed to Change Your Mind About the Life You Chose
Have you ever stayed in something long after you stopped wanting it, because of the time and money you already put in? The degree, the career you picked as a kid, the business you built from nothing? That sunk cost can keep you stuck for years.
After 12 years of running Brazen Legal, my immigration law firm, I'm closing it on December 31st.
In this episode, I talk about the reactions I've gotten from clients, family, and other lawyers, why we expect every career change to come with a tragic backstory, and why nothing you've invested in is wasted when you choose something new.
If you're feeling the nudge to move away from something you've outgrown, this one's for you.
CONNECT WITH BIANCA:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brazenlawyer/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brazenlawyer
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@brazenlawyer
Website: https://www.biancajjordan.com
20 min - 31. Being a Beginner, Going to Harvard, and Everywhere in Between
It’s been a minute since we talked, so let’s catch up!
We’re talking about my first family vacay to Puerto Rico, and how my coaching journey landed me in The Coaching Experience and led to my taking a course at Harvard University.
The Coaching Experience is a curated event designed to connect mid-senior level professionals with experienced coaches through speed coaching sessions, live coaching demonstrations, and intentional networking. Learn more and register here: http://bit.ly/thecoachingexperience2026
Get coaching with me! Learn more and book at https://www.brilliantrebel.com/coaching
CONNECT WITH BIANCA:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brazenlawyer/
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/brazenlawyer
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@brazenlawyer
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@brilliantrebel
Website: https://www.brilliantrebel.com
13 min - 30. Redefining the Village: What Modern Motherhood Actually Requires
It takes a village to raise a child — but the village our parents had and the village we're building don’t necessarily look the same. In the final episode of the Ambition After Motherhood series, Bianca sits down with two members of her own village for an honest conversation about what it actually takes to show up as an ambitious mother in a world that wasn't designed to support you.
They get into what the village looked like growing up in immigrant households, how their definitions of community have evolved since becoming mothers, the guilt around paid help and why it's time to let that go, the invisible pressures of modern motherhood, and what it really means to be a core memory parent without losing yourself in the process.
If you've ever felt like you were supposed to do it all without asking for help, this one is for you.
LINKS & RESOURCES
Connect with Obi Ikeme, Esq. on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/obi-ikeme/
Connect with Nkoyo Effiong-Lewis, Esq. on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nkoyoelewis/
Download The Edit, a free self-assessment designed to help high-achieving eldest daughters of immigrants cut through the noise to get what they already know they want, and keep talking themselves out of: https://www.brilliantrebel.com/the-edit
Learn more about and book the Pivot Strategy Session: https://www.brilliantrebel.com/coaching
CONNECT WITH BIANCA:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brazenlawyer/
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/brazenlawyer
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@brazenlawyer
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@brilliantrebel
Website: https://www.brilliantrebel.com
40 min - 29. The Money Conversation Every Mother Wishes She'd Had Sooner
Bianca continues the Ambition After Motherhood series.
Nobody tells you that the most loaded financial decisions of your life are going to happen right after you've just pushed a human out of your body.
In this episode, Bianca sits down with behavioral money coach and financial therapist Jenny Jean-Baptiste — founder of Surplus Financial and a fellow first-generation professional — for an honest, hilarious, and deeply real conversation about money and motherhood. They get into whether it's actually realistic to save before having a baby, why a lot of us are trying to financially heal through our children instead of for them, how unsupportive partners are quietly tanking women's income potential, why rest is not a reward but a requirement, and the one money conversation every couple needs to have before the baby arrives that has nothing to do with a savings account.
This is the episode for the eldest daughter who has been the financial backbone of everyone around her and forgot to put herself in the picture.
LINKS & RESOURCES
Connect with Jenny: Email: [email protected] Text: 508-436-0852 (mention you heard her on Pivot or Perish) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennygjb/
Download The Edit, a free self-assessment designed to help high-achieving eldest daughters of immigrants cut through the noise to get what they already know they want, and keep talking themselves out of: https://www.brilliantrebel.com/the-edit
Learn more about Bianca's coaching: https://www.brilliantrebel.com/coaching
Connect with Bianca:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brazenlawyer/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brazenlawyer
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@brazenlawyer
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@brilliantrebel
Website: https://www.brilliantrebel.com
53 min - 28. Motherhood Grief is Real and Nobody Warns You About It
In this episode of Pivot or Perish, Bianca continues the Ambition After Motherhood series with a conversation about the grief, identity shifts, and emotional weight that can come with motherhood, even when motherhood is deeply wanted.
Bianca is joined by Julie Martin, LMFT, a licensed marriage and family therapist who supports individuals, couples, and families navigating identity, relationships, motherhood, and life across cultures, and Kacy C. Maitland, LICSW, Chief Clinical Officer at Samaritans, Inc., where she leads clinical and crisis support programs including the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline.
Together, they discuss the unexpected grief of shedding who you were before motherhood, the pressure high-achieving women and eldest daughters often feel to “do it all,” the performance of modern motherhood, and how to recognize the difference between a difficult transition and a moment when more support may be needed.
Content note: This episode includes general discussion of suicide, suicidal thoughts, postpartum mental health, and crisis support.If you or someone you know is struggling, you can call or text 988 in the U.S. to reach the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline for free, confidential support 24/7. You can also chat through the 988 Lifeline website.
CONNECT WITH OUR GUESTS
Connect with Kacy at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kacy-c-maitland-licsw/
Connect with Julie at https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmartinlmft/ and [email protected]
LINKS & RESOURCES
Download The Edit, a free self-assessment designed to help high-achieving eldest daughters of immigrants cut through the noise to get what they already know they want, and keep talking themselves out of: https://www.brilliantrebel.com/the-edit
Learn more about and book the Pivot Strategy Session: https://www.brilliantrebel.com/coaching
CONNECT WITH BIANCA:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brazenlawyer/
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/brazenlawyer
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@brazenlawyer
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@brilliantrebel
Website: https://www.brilliantrebel.com
48 min - 27. We Were Sold a Version of Motherhood That Was Never Real
This episode kicks off the Ambition After Motherhood series. If you're an ambitious woman trying to hold your career and your motherhood at the same time — without dropping either — this episode is for you.
We grew up watching our mothers work and hold everything together without complaint. We watched our favorite girlboss entrepreneurs refuse to let a baby slow them down. And we built our entire expectation of what ambitious motherhood would look like around performances that were never the full picture.
Bianca gets honest about what it actually looks like to pursue big goals in a season that demands everything from you, why eldest daughters and children of immigrants feel this pressure differently, and why "doing it all" was never a fair ask to begin with.
LINKS & RESOURCES
Download The Edit, a free self-assessment designed to help high-achieving eldest daughters of immigrants cut through the noise to get what they already know they want, and keep talking themselves out of: https://www.brilliantrebel.com/the-edit
Learn more about and book the Pivot Strategy Session: https://www.brilliantrebel.com/coaching
CONNECT WITH BIANCA:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brazenlawyer/
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/brazenlawyer
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@brazenlawyer
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@brilliantrebel
Website: https://www.brilliantrebel.com
15 min - 26: Intro to Ambition After Motherhood
Introducing: Ambition After Motherhood, a 4-part series for women in all stages of their motherhood journey.
This isn't about "balancing it all," preparing for maternity leave, or any generic mom advice.
Bianca and guests will have conversations about what shifts when you've always been ambitious and driver, and now you're navigating that same ambition in a completely different season of life.
Connect with Bianca:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brazenlawyer/
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/brazenlawyer
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@brazenlawyer
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@brilliantrebel
Website: https://www.brilliantrebel.com
4 min - 25. You Don't Need a Blueprint. You Need to Trust Yourself.
You already know what you want. The problem isn't clarity — it's that somewhere along the way you learned that your instincts needed to be verified before they were valid. So you research, you ask, you compare, you wait. And the thing you actually wanted to build stays exactly where it was.
In this episode, we get into where that pattern comes from, what it's actually costing you, and what becomes possible when you stop looking for someone else's blueprint and start trusting your own.
Download the Edit, a free self-assessment designed to help high-achieving eldest daughters of immigrants cut through the noise to get what they already know they want, and keep talking themselves out of: https://www.brilliantrebel.com/the-edit
Learn more about and book the Pivot Strategy Session: https://www.brilliantrebel.com/coaching
Connect with Bianca:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brazenlawyer/
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/brazenlawyer
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@brazenlawyer
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@brilliantrebel
Website: https://www.brilliantrebel.com
11 min - 24. Should I Get Another Degree? The Truth About Credentials
You've been told your whole life that more education equals more opportunity. But what if getting another degree is actually keeping you stuck?
In this episode, I'm getting into why so many high-achieving women, especially children of immigrants, keep reaching for another credential instead of making a move.
We'll talk about the real ROI of advanced degrees, the deeper reason we keep going back to school, and the three questions you need to answer before you enroll in anything else.
Learn more about my 6-month private coaching program here: http://brilliantrebel.com/coaching
Connect with Bianca:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brazenlawyer/
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/brazenlawyer
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@brazenlawyer
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@brilliantrebel
Website: https://www.brilliantrebel.com
16 min - 23. The Problem With Waiting Your Turn to Get What You Want
You’ve done everything right. You’ve paid your dues. You've been patient. And you’re still waiting.
On this episode of Pivot or Perish, we're talking about why the whole concept of waiting your turn is designed to keep you stuck.
Bianca breaks down where that conditioning comes from, why it hits especially hard for high achievers, and what it looks like to stop outsourcing your own timeline to other people's approval.
Connect with Bianca:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brazenlawyer/
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/brazenlawyer
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@brazenlawyer
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@brilliantrebel
Website: https://www.brilliantrebel.com
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About Pivot or Perish
From the publisher's feed
Pivot or Perish is a podcast about ambition, identity, and having the courage to question the blueprint you inherited. Hosted by Bianca Jordan, each episode explores career pivots, entrepreneurship,…
leadership, and the realities of building a life on your own terms—especially for high-achieving eldest daughters of immigrants. Through solo episodes and candid conversations, you'll find thoughtful ideas, practical strategies, and the permission to think differently.