That Agency Show

Pivoting From Agency Retainers to Pay-Per-Lead


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What started as a casual conversation in a co-working office turned into a powerful business idea.Real estate investor Preston Dahl shared he was paying up to $500 for a single motivated seller lead through pay-per-lead platforms. Advertising expert Kyle knew he could generate the same quality leads for under $100 — so they tested it. It worked, and the inbound leads started flowing.Kyle later partnered with Drew to launch Leadzolo, focused on helping real estate investors generate motivated seller leads.


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0:00 - Cold open: origins and pivots
1:19 - Episode introduction

1:22 - Preston’s background and BRRRR overview

4:46 - Reality TV first flip story

8:00 - Meeting at coworking and PPL light bulb

15:58 - Why pay-per-lead and early testing results

23:33 - Kyle’s real estate pitch and pivot to selling leads

30:43 - Spinning up Leadzolo, roles, and early clients

42:02 - Decision-making, pivots, and lifestyle entrepreneurship

48:14 - Preston’s current business model and avoiding distractions

52:12 - Kyle’s scaling philosophy, redefining scale, and patience

58:48 - Closing banter and wrap-up

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That Agency ShowBy Kyle Sulerud and Drew Carrell