The father-and-son team behind Dogtown Pizza, a family-owned frozen pizza business in St. Louis, sit down for a candid conversation. They discuss the early challenges of building the company and how, years later, they worked together to dramatically expand it. They also share a heart-to-heart about the son’s plans to step away from the business and pursue his own dreams.

(0:00) \- Luis & Paola visit the frozen pizza aisle at Schnucks.

(7:43) \- Rick G. Schaper (father) and Rick S. Schaper (son) discuss the origins and growth of Dogtown Pizza.

(18:00) \- Father and son discuss leaving the business.

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*Credits: This episode was written, hosted, produced and mixed by Luis Antonio Perez, with story editing by Alex Heuer and Brian Heffernan. The executive producer of “Meet Me” is Brian Heffernan. Paola Rodriguez is our engagement producer with editorial support from Lara Hamdan. Podcast art by Cristina Fletes-Mach. Our theme music is by [Kudda & Friends](https://www.instagram.com/kkuddamuzic/). Additional music by [Holizna](https://holiznacc0.bandcamp.com/). Special thanks to Brian Munoz, Jeab Vardhanabhuti at the University of Missouri, Schnucks Markets and Dogtown Pizza.*

Grant support comes from the James S. McDonnell foundation.

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