Plain Speech Podcast

In this episode of the Plain Speech Podcast, I sit down with Darin Stidd, a former pastor turned grassroots political activist with Young Americans for Liberty. Darin brings a rare combination of pastoral heart, sharp theology, and boots-on-the-ground political experience.

Together, we tackle some of the most pressing questions Christians are asking right now:

• Should Christians really care about politics if Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world”?

• What does Romans 13 actually teach about submission to government?

• How should we think about separation of church and state?

• Why “just preach the gospel” is a gnostic distortion of Christianity.

• What ordinary Christians can do to push back against tyranny without running for office.

• Why most politicians don’t care about right and wrong — and how Christians can still force them to do the right thing.

• How just 3% plus one of engaged citizens can change the course of politics in your state.

  
  

Derin is convinced that Christians must bring their theology into the public square and learn to wield power in ways that honor Christ. This conversation will challenge you to think biblically, act courageously, and refuse to sit on the Stiddelines.

If you’re in the Northern Kentucky / Greater Cincinnati area, join us Saturday, October 25, 2025 for a free seminar with Derin Stidd:

Obey God, Defy Tyrants: A Grassroots Theology of Politics

📍 Christ the King Church, Fort Thomas, KY

🕘 9 AM – 12 PM

💻 Register here

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00:00 The Reality of Political Motivations

00:49 Introduction to Derin Stidd

04:15 Christians and Political Involvement

14:10 The Misinterpretation of 'Separation of Church and State'

21:03 The Role of Christians in Government

31:51 Understanding Government and Citizen Power

32:56 Practical Steps for Political Engagement

34:49 Biblical Perspective on Government Authority

41:10 The Role of Christians in Politics

42:47 The Reality of Political Systems

49:33 Effective Political Strategies for Christians

56:23 Final Thoughts and Event Information

In this episode of the Plain Speech Podcast, host Michael Clary sits down with Kevin Briggins, a Christian Reformed Baptist, military veteran, and co-founder of the Center for Biblical Unity. Kevin hosts:

https://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@OffCodePodcast⁩  

https://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@InformedTakes⁩  

https://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@centerforbiblicalunity⁩  

In this eye-opening episode, they dive deep into what many Christians get wrong about Martin Luther King Jr., challenging the narrative of his faith and legacy. From the social gospel to the civil rights movement’s hidden tactics, Kevin unpacks the complexities of race, culture, and biblical unity in today’s polarized world. They also discuss the dangers of critical race theory, the manipulation of language like "whiteness" and "blackness," and the hope for a church grounded in the true gospel. 

Topics covered: 

* Common misconceptions about Martin Luther King Jr.’s faith and the civil rights movement.  

* The dangers of critical race theory and its impact on the church.  

* How terms like "whiteness" and "blackness" are manipulated to push a Marxist worldview.  

* The cultural pressures that divide Christians and how the gospel offers true unity.  

* Kevin’s personal journey from a Democratic upbringing to conservative convictions.  

* The future of the church in navigating racial and cultural challenges.

Resources Mentioned

 Chad O. Jackson’s upcoming documentary on MLK: Follow Chad for updates https://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@ChadOJackson⁩  

Fault Lines by Voddie Baucham https://a.co/d/aNnTnKu

Christianity and Liberalism by J. Gresham Machen https://a.co/d/0gVQtBP

https://x.com/KJBrigg

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Time Stamps

00:00 Debunking Myths About Martin Luther King

01:10 Introduction to the Plain Speech Podcast

01:19 Meet Kevin Brigans: Background and Beliefs

02:02 Navigating Race and Christianity

05:47 Kevin's Journey to Conservatism

06:39 Challenges of Being a Conservative Black Christian

08:22 The Impact of Social Justice on Church Unity

10:42 The Rise of Critical Race Theory in Churches

14:17 The Dangers of Activism in Christianity

26:22 Redefining Blackness and Whiteness

40:03 Embracing Ethnic Heritage and Identity in Christ

41:14 Navigating Racial Identity in America

43:10 The Woke Right and Its Implications

44:52 Challenges in Discussing Woke Ideologies

49:08 Reevaluating Martin Luther King's Legacy

53:36 The Civil Rights Movement: A Different Perspective

01:07:39 Cultural Influences and Social Dynamics

01:13:08 Future Challenges for Christians

In this conversation, Michael Clary and C. R. Wiley delve into the complexities of artificial intelligence (AI) and its implications for society, particularly from a Christian perspective. They explore the definition of AI, its rapid advancements, and the potential threats it poses to human vocation, dominion, and the risk of idolatry. Wiley emphasizes the need for establishing boundaries around AI and discusses the concept of transhumanism, where technology intersects with human existence. The conversation concludes with reflections on how Christians can prepare for the future in a world increasingly influenced by AI. In this conversation, C. R. Wiley and Michael Clary explore the implications of artificial intelligence (AI) on spirituality, ethics, and pastoral ministry. They discuss the challenges posed by AI in prayer, the moral imperatives of technological progress, and the ethical dilemmas surrounding human enhancement technologies. The conversation also delves into the acceptable and unacceptable uses of AI in pastoral work, the integration of technology in the household, and the potential for AI to influence consciousness and spirituality, including concerns about demonic influence.

Chapters

00:00 Understanding AI: A New Era of Technology

07:34 Theological Concerns: Vocation, Dominion, and Idolatry

14:33 Navigating the AI Landscape: Living with Technology

20:23 Transhumanism: The Intersection of AI and Humanity

26:42 Preparing for the Future: Anticipating Change in Ministry

29:08 The Role of AI in Prayer and Spirituality

30:47 Technological Progress and Moral Imperatives

32:44 Human Enhancement Technologies and Ethical Dilemmas

36:53 AI in Pastoral Ministry: Acceptable vs. Unacceptable Uses

45:03 Integrating Technology in the Household

50:13 AI, Consciousness, and Potential Demonic Influence

In this conversation, Jeff shares his testimony of transformation from a life of addiction to a life dedicated to Christ. He recounts his early experiences with martial arts, his struggles with substance abuse, and the pivotal moments that led to his conversion. Jeff emphasizes the importance of discipleship and accountability in his journey, ultimately leading to the founding of Apologia Church, which serves those recovering from addiction. The discussion also touches on the challenges of integrating faith with recovery and the role of apologetics in his ministry. In this conversation, Jeff Durbin shares his journey of faith, mentorship, and the challenges of ministry. He reflects on his early encounters with evangelism, the influence of key figures in his life, and the role of the Holy Spirit in his work. Durbin discusses the balance between personal life and ministry, the joys and difficulties of serving in the church, and the importance of community support in his calling.

00:00 God's Calling to Plant a Church

00:32 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest

01:00 King's Domain Conference Announcement

03:08 Jeff Durbin's Personal Testimony

07:51 Struggles with Addiction and Turning Point

17:17 Transformation and Ministry Beginnings

23:25 Challenges and Growth of Apologia Church

26:31 Cultural Changes and Christian Leadership

28:45 Reflections on Grace and Ministry

37:54 Facing Challenges in Ministry

39:14 Journey to Street Evangelism

39:55 Early Influences and Inspirations

42:36 Meeting James White and Growing in Apologetics

56:53 Reflections on God's Work and Personal Growth

01:04:16 Balancing Ministry and Personal Life

01:07:54 The Role of Martial Arts in Shaping Ministry

01:14:21 Concluding Thoughts and Future Events

In this conversation, Joe Rigney discusses his book 'The Sin of Empathy,' exploring the complexities and dangers of empathy in modern society. He contrasts empathy with sympathy, examines the biblical perspective on these emotions, and critiques the emotional manipulation that can arise from excessive empathy. Rigney argues that compassion has been elevated to a control virtue, often leading to selective empathy that neglects justice. He emphasizes the need for a balanced approach to compassion and emotional engagement, warning against the potential for empathy to lead to cruelty when disconnected from moral truth. In this conversation, Joe Rigney explores the complexities of compassion and empathy, particularly in the context of Christian leadership and pastoral care. He discusses the dangers of untethered empathy, the importance of maintaining boundaries, and the role of flattery in compromising truth. Rigney offers practical advice for pastors on how to navigate difficult situations with compassion while remaining anchored in truth. He concludes with insights on preparing for future challenges in Christian living, drawing lessons from the Book of Judges.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction: The Devil's Tactics

00:21 Guest Introduction: Dr. Joe Rigney

00:31 Upcoming Event: King's Domain Conference

02:13 Interview Begins: The Sin of Empathy

02:48 Understanding Empathy and Sympathy

04:12 Book Comparisons: Leadership and Emotional Sabotage vs. The Sin of Empathy

07:44 Biblical Context: Empathy vs. Sympathy

15:36 Empathy as Emotional Manipulation

17:47 Cultural Shifts and Challenges

23:55 Empathy in Modern Contexts

28:36 The Sin of Empathy: A Controversial Perspective

29:47 Lewis's Passion of Pity and Dangerous Compassion

32:15 Empathy vs. Enmeshment: The Boundaries Debate

33:43 Flattery and Deception in Christian Ministry

35:49 The Trap of Seeking Compassionate Reputation

41:03 Future-Proof Christianity: Standing Firm in Changing Times

42:34 Practical Advice for Pastors: Balancing Compassion and Truth

51:24 Navigating Tribalism in Modern Christianity

53:37 Conclusion and Upcoming Conference Details

In this episode of the Plain Speech Podcast, host Michael Clary is joined by Pastor Tom Ascol from Grace Baptist Church in Cape Coral, Florida. They discuss the challenges and transformations of Ascol’s nearly four-decade tenure at the church, the fight for doctrinal integrity within the Southern Baptist Convention, and the importance of maintaining a gospel-centered ministry. Pastor Ascol shares personal stories of church splits, leadership struggles, and his insights into the pervasive influence of feminism in the church. He also talks about the role of the Founders Ministry, the inception of the Institute of Public Theology, and upcoming plans for a residential seminary focused on creating resilient Christian leaders. This conversation provides invaluable advice and encouragement for both seasoned and aspiring pastors.

00:00 Introduction to Christian Faith

01:28 Welcome to the Plain Speech Podcast

01:45 Tom Ascol's Journey with Founders Ministry

03:43 Challenges and Changes at Grace Baptist Church

21:52 The Importance of Godly Leadership

27:05 Founders Ministry and Its Impact

35:02 Introduction to the Seminary Program

36:54 The Inerrancy Controversy

39:25 Challenges and Controversies in Theology

42:46 The Rise of Reformed Theology

53:23 Feminism and Modern Challenges

01:01:32 Advice for Young Ministers

01:06:49 Conclusion and Upcoming Events

In this episode of the Plain Speech Podcast, host Michael Clary is joined by David Schrock. They discuss the importance of investing in young men for leadership roles within the local church, practical steps for pastoral training, and the potential pitfalls and strategies for theological education. David Schrock, also a keynote speaker for the upcoming King's Domain Conference on 'Future Proof Christianity,' shares insights on the current challenges and opportunities for young men entering ministry today. The conversation also delves into the history and current controversies surrounding the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC) and what reforms might be necessary. Tune in for an enlightening discussion on raising future leaders and ensuring they are well-equipped for the challenges ahead.

00:00 Introduction and Small Beginnings

00:22 Meet the Hosts: Michael Clary and David Schrock

00:45 Raising Future Leaders in the Church

01:47 The Impact of the Negative World

11:25 The Role of Seminary Training

14:48 The Importance of Embodied Learning

24:45 Pastoral Training Programs

31:16 Strengths and Weaknesses of Seminary Education

33:35 The Role of Local Churches in Pastoral Training

35:55 Balancing Seminary and Local Church Training

37:26 Indianapolis Theological Seminary: A Model for the Future

44:14 Challenges and Solutions for Rural Pastoral Training

48:46 Addressing Theological Errors in the Church

52:54 The Business of Isness: A New Book

55:46 Christ Over All and the ERLC

01:00:58 Upcoming Conference and Final Thoughts

In this episode of the Plain Speech podcast, Alex Kocman discusses the broad definition of persecution in a Christian context. Alex, who serves as the Director of Communications and Engagement at ABWE and an Elder at Faith Bible Fellowship Church, explores how persecution can come in varying degrees and forms, not just overt physical violence but also subtle societal pressures. He shares insights on how Christians are facing severe persecution worldwide, particularly in countries like Nigeria, Armenia, and regions of India. The conversation delves into the theological and practical implications of persecution, addressing the balance between suffering for Christ and not unnecessarily seeking martyrdom. Alex emphasizes the importance of maintaining a witness for Christ amidst cultural pressures and the role that different forms of opposition play in the sanctification of believers. The episode concludes with a reflection on how Christians should utilize their freedoms and resources to further the mission of the church globally.

00:00 Introduction to Alex Kocman

01:24 Defining Persecution

06:09 Global Hotspots of Persecution

14:37 Persecution in America

19:51 The Nature of Persecution and Christian Witness

33:05 The Pedestal of Persecution

34:20 Winsomeness Controversy and Cultural Shifts

36:15 Internal Conflicts Among Christians

37:15 Paul's Response to Opposition

38:41 The Role of Suffering in Christian Life

43:50 Balancing Truth and Compassion

51:59 Martyr Complex and Misguided Zeal

01:01:47 Holistic Christian Mission

01:03:14 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

In this episode of the Plain Speech podcast, Eric Tuffendsam, an experienced musician and producer, discusses the complexities and issues within the Christian music industry. They delve into how market-driven motives compromise the spiritual aspect of worship music and how major secular record labels control a significant portion of the Christian music market. Eric raises concerns about the emotional manipulation in modern worship songs and emphasizes the importance of producing music that genuinely glorifies God. He introduces his own project, the Sower Project, aimed at creating biblically sound music and shares his vision for a resurgence of quality Christian music coming from the Reformed tradition.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:49 The Christian Music Industry's Hidden Truths

02:34 Ownership and Market Influence in Christian Music

05:31 Impact of Market Pressures on Music Content

09:12 Emotional Manipulation in Worship Music

11:31 Musical Formulas and Their Effects

17:17 Challenges in Creating Authentic Worship Music

29:12 Comparing Modern Worship Songs to Psalms

31:25 Exploring Worship Song Lyrics

34:22 The Business of Christian Music

40:21 Challenges for Aspiring Christian Musicians

47:43 Introducing the Sower Project

50:31 The Seed EP: A Gospel Journey

57:39 Encouraging Christian Artistry

59:52 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Recorded the day after Donald Trump's reelection, Davis shares his insights as a Pennsylvania voter on the election results and evangelical voter turnout. As a former military JAG officer, Davis recounts his transition from cynicism to actively defending religious rights during COVID-19. He shares personal anecdotes, including his legal defense of Navy SEALs against the COVID vaccine mandates and his experience representing Michael Cassidy. We also delve into the legal challenges Christians face concerning compelled speech, participation in pride events, and the importance of building supportive communities to uphold religious freedom.

00:00 Introduction and Election Aftermath

00:35 Evangelical Voter Turnout

01:27 Churches and Pastors' Role in Politics

02:07 Personal Reflections on COVID and Politics

03:03 Military Background and Legal Career

05:13 Defending Religious Freedom During COVID

10:20 Tucker Carlson Interview Experience

13:57 State of Religious Freedom in the Military

21:37 Legal Trends and Challenges for Christians

28:37 State Regulations on Marriage Licenses

29:00 Churches and Legal Vulnerabilities

30:10 Building Community and Support

30:21 Personal Experience During COVID

31:48 Challenges Faced by Churches

34:54 Legal Protections for Religious Beliefs

36:10 Case Studies of Religious Accommodations

44:47 Navigating Legal Challenges

46:17 Support Systems for Legal Battles

50:09 High-Profile Legal Cases

56:08 Conclusion and Final Thoughts