The gang talks to Plant Prof Dr. Vikram Baliga about the ways plants are helping us work towards a hopeful future. Also, this is the origin moment of the "Stop Using Anti-Wetland Language!" meme.

Go buy Vikram's book, it's great: https://www.amazon.com/Plants-Rescue-Solving-Biggest-Problems/dp/1684493293/

Listen to his podcast and follow across social media:https://linktr.ee/theplantprof

Our theme music is by Brian Barker and our editing is by Kathryn DeCreny and Richard Barker.