In this episode, we discuss the intersection of commerce and sustainability, focusing on the global initiative to create an international plastics treaty. We explore the impact of plastics on society, the challenges of negotiating the treaty, and the importance of stakeholder engagement. The conversation emphasizes the need for reduction targets, the role of technology in the circular economy, and the balance between economic and environmental goals. The episode concludes with a hopeful message about the future of circular economy and the importance of inclusive conversations.