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Most engineers are optimizing for the wrong skills.
In this episode, I sat down with Thanagai Velour — VP of Engineering at Expedia — to talk about what's actually getting engineers hired (and promoted) right now. We break down the rise of platform engineering, why FinOps is shifting from an accounting function to a core engineering discipline, and how AI is changing what it means to be a software engineer in 2025 and beyond. If you're a software engineer, DevOps engineer, or SRE looking to level up your career, this is the episode you can't skip.
What we cover:
📌 Why platform engineering is the highest-leverage role in tech right now
📌 What FinOps actually is — and why every engineer needs to understand it
📌 The "P-shaped engineer" framework and why companies are hiring for it
📌 How AI agents are replacing grunt work — and what that means for your career
📌 Red flags VPs see on resumes (and how to avoid them)
📌 The difference between outputs and outcomes — and why it determines your promotions
📌 Why "why" matters more than "how" in every technical interview
🔔 Subscribe for weekly tech career strategy, insider hiring insights, and interviews with executives who actually make the hiring decisions
Use "techjobberpod_20" for 20% off the FinOps site certs found here: https://www.finops.org/training-certi... for the
For FinOpsX, the event in San Diego this summer, use code "TECHJOBBERPODX26", which can be redeemed here: https://x.finops.org/register/ . It gives $200 off the ticket price!
Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
By Chris SchwenkMost engineers are optimizing for the wrong skills.
In this episode, I sat down with Thanagai Velour — VP of Engineering at Expedia — to talk about what's actually getting engineers hired (and promoted) right now. We break down the rise of platform engineering, why FinOps is shifting from an accounting function to a core engineering discipline, and how AI is changing what it means to be a software engineer in 2025 and beyond. If you're a software engineer, DevOps engineer, or SRE looking to level up your career, this is the episode you can't skip.
What we cover:
📌 Why platform engineering is the highest-leverage role in tech right now
📌 What FinOps actually is — and why every engineer needs to understand it
📌 The "P-shaped engineer" framework and why companies are hiring for it
📌 How AI agents are replacing grunt work — and what that means for your career
📌 Red flags VPs see on resumes (and how to avoid them)
📌 The difference between outputs and outcomes — and why it determines your promotions
📌 Why "why" matters more than "how" in every technical interview
🔔 Subscribe for weekly tech career strategy, insider hiring insights, and interviews with executives who actually make the hiring decisions
Use "techjobberpod_20" for 20% off the FinOps site certs found here: https://www.finops.org/training-certi... for the
For FinOpsX, the event in San Diego this summer, use code "TECHJOBBERPODX26", which can be redeemed here: https://x.finops.org/register/ . It gives $200 off the ticket price!
Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.