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Join us as we explore what it feels like to step out of the industry for seven months and walk back into a job that runs at a completely different speed! In this episode, Bat Hen Yosefov, DevOps Group Manager at Payoneer, shares how she returned from maternity leave straight into the AI agent era — where people now expect things in hours, not days or weeks — and why she calls it the coolest leave she's ever had.
Discover why she insists self-service "is service, it's not always self," the story of a Solution Engineer who told Claude to fix a secrets alert and watched it quietly wipe the pipeline ("he doesn't even know what a pipeline is"), and why she believes knowing the right questions to ask is now the difference between heaven and earth.
Bat Hen Yosefov on LinkedIn - https://il.linkedin.com/in/bat-hen-yosefov
Miki Manor on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikimanor/
Ofir Stein on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ofir-stein/
DevOps Leaders - https://www.linkedin.com/company/devops-leaders-il/posts/?feedView=all
Key takeaways:
Coming back from a 7-month maternity leave into the AI era is a shock to the system — the pace went from days and weeks to hours, and "they talk to me in hours now"
A DevOps lead today manages a team of agents alongside developers — the agents genuinely speed up the work, but only if you can keep up with what they produce
Self-service is a misleading term: "it's service, it's not always self" — some teams wrap it, some hand everything to the developer, and the real platform work is in how you wrap it
Knowing the right questions to ask — and understanding the answers you get back — is now the difference between heaven and earth, for engineers and for kids learning today
The platform team's job is shifting toward "letting go" — wrapping quality gates so developers need far less interaction, even though that release work is the less fun part ("I'm DevOps, I'd rather build automation to do it")
The professional-fear dissonance: pushing developers to lean on you less can feel existential, but the backlog is endless and the same headcount can now deliver far more value, faster
Hiring has changed: she doesn't expect a candidate to know everything ("not everyone needs to know Kafka") — she asks whether they can learn and work with the material, because something new drops every two days
Bat Hen's open question for the next guest: how do you build organizational knowledge you can feed your agents — bringing the right information at the right time while it keeps learning and solving tomorrow's problems
We're recording live from the Platforma conference in Tel Aviv, featuring fascinating discussions on AI and more.
Join our exclusive DevOps Leaders community with over 300 members, where we share knowledge and improve together.
What's your biggest challenge in the DevOps field? Drop it in the comments!
Subscribe for weekly insights and updates on the latest in DevOps! #DevOps #Podcast #Technology #AI #Payoneer
By DevOps Leaders IL CommunityJoin us as we explore what it feels like to step out of the industry for seven months and walk back into a job that runs at a completely different speed! In this episode, Bat Hen Yosefov, DevOps Group Manager at Payoneer, shares how she returned from maternity leave straight into the AI agent era — where people now expect things in hours, not days or weeks — and why she calls it the coolest leave she's ever had.
Discover why she insists self-service "is service, it's not always self," the story of a Solution Engineer who told Claude to fix a secrets alert and watched it quietly wipe the pipeline ("he doesn't even know what a pipeline is"), and why she believes knowing the right questions to ask is now the difference between heaven and earth.
Bat Hen Yosefov on LinkedIn - https://il.linkedin.com/in/bat-hen-yosefov
Miki Manor on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikimanor/
Ofir Stein on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ofir-stein/
DevOps Leaders - https://www.linkedin.com/company/devops-leaders-il/posts/?feedView=all
Key takeaways:
Coming back from a 7-month maternity leave into the AI era is a shock to the system — the pace went from days and weeks to hours, and "they talk to me in hours now"
A DevOps lead today manages a team of agents alongside developers — the agents genuinely speed up the work, but only if you can keep up with what they produce
Self-service is a misleading term: "it's service, it's not always self" — some teams wrap it, some hand everything to the developer, and the real platform work is in how you wrap it
Knowing the right questions to ask — and understanding the answers you get back — is now the difference between heaven and earth, for engineers and for kids learning today
The platform team's job is shifting toward "letting go" — wrapping quality gates so developers need far less interaction, even though that release work is the less fun part ("I'm DevOps, I'd rather build automation to do it")
The professional-fear dissonance: pushing developers to lean on you less can feel existential, but the backlog is endless and the same headcount can now deliver far more value, faster
Hiring has changed: she doesn't expect a candidate to know everything ("not everyone needs to know Kafka") — she asks whether they can learn and work with the material, because something new drops every two days
Bat Hen's open question for the next guest: how do you build organizational knowledge you can feed your agents — bringing the right information at the right time while it keeps learning and solving tomorrow's problems
We're recording live from the Platforma conference in Tel Aviv, featuring fascinating discussions on AI and more.
Join our exclusive DevOps Leaders community with over 300 members, where we share knowledge and improve together.
What's your biggest challenge in the DevOps field? Drop it in the comments!
Subscribe for weekly insights and updates on the latest in DevOps! #DevOps #Podcast #Technology #AI #Payoneer