We may be surprised to learn that our concepts of spirituality and the spirit realm (and even Heaven) are formed as much by Plato as by the Bible.

In this episode, Nathan and Daniel dive into one of Plato's most significant philosophical ideas, and the idea that has deeply influenced Christian thought: dualism. The discussion centers around understanding what dualism is, how it contrasts with monism, and also how it is similar to yet also very different from the dualism taught in the scriptures.

00:00 Introduction: No Script, Just Plato

00:37 Plato's Biggest Idea: Dualism

01:08 Understanding Dualism: Matter vs. Spirit

02:45 Pop Culture Reference: Stranger Things

03:41 Monism vs. Dualism

05:44 Pluralism?

06:52 Plato's Dualism and Christian Theology

12:57 Visualizing Plato's Dualism

15:03 Exploring the Concept of Value

15:13 Understanding the Realm of Forms

15:44 Physical vs Non-Physical Realms

16:48 Illustrating Plato's Theory with Examples

18:36 The Theory of Forms Explained

22:42 Ethics and Ideal Forms

24:19 Christian Dualism and Plato's Influence

28:38 The Interaction Between Realms

29:25 Conclusion and Future Discussions