Discussing Plato’s Republic we get into the opening text discussing setting and character and how the conversation about justice commences.

"How can you persuade us," says Polemarchus, "if we refuse to listen?"  Indeed, how can anyone be persuaded if they block out the images and arguments presented to them.  As Glaucon says, "it is not possible" & thus he reveals the growing disease within his own heart that makes him an image of Eurydice whose imprisonment in the world of the dead must be cured by the Orphic mythopoesis of Plato through his character, Socrates.  Thus begins the great discussion about the nature of Justice.

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