Rabbi Rami talks to John Tarrant clarifies the deeper meaning and uses of a koan, including lightening up your perspective. An interview with Tarrant appears in the May/June 2016 issue of Spirituality & Health magazine. John Tarrant is the director of Pacific Zen Institute and author of Bring Me the Rhinoceros and The Light Inside the Dark. He is the editor of the new online magazine Uncertainty Club.

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