"this is not Pollyanna, like, oh, there's something beautiful in everything. No, no, some things are just terrible. I'm not gonna lie to you about that.... and, I refuse to shape my identity around oppression. I won't do it."

Forming our worlds around meeting our collective and individual needs; so that we can defeat oppression without forming ourselves around the oppression itself. If we form our identities around the oppression, we risk creating a void within ourselves in the very shape of that oppression.

Transcript and notes:

https://dev.intensivesinstitute.com/captivate-podcast/pleasure-and-pain-woven-fine

Recorded 1 May 2023.