Today, Geraldine follows the increased debate at the Plenary Council about the challenge of naming the issues at stake versus instituting some change for the better?

Hear surprising realism from Fr Gerry Gleeson, Vicar-General of the Archdiocese of Sydney, and also parish priest of Our Lady Star Of The Sea at Watson’s Bay; and Raj Rajasingam, from the Diocese of Broken Bay, who is a financial advisor and planner and also National Mission Director of the Couples For Christ movement, a covenant community.