[[RAW AUDIO WARNING: This episode consists mostly of raw audio in a classroom setting, so: maybe don't dial your stereos up to 11 on this one.]]

Many thanks to the University of Arizona MFA program for hosting us (well, hosting Tony and a laptop with Kend on Skype) last week! We are uploading the live audio as a plus-one podcast in advance of our scheduled weekly episode. The conversation was wide-ranging, but centered on our experiences as folks who got our MFAs and then had to grapple with SFF's weird relationship to the (note the big air quotes) "literary" establishment.

Our excellent hosts included UAMFA program director extraordinaire Ander Monson (findable on Twitter @angermonsoon & online at www.otherelectricities.com) and Chris Cokinos, whose cats are just plain excellent and whose books on meteorite hunting and vanished birds are mindblowing. Check 'em out, and enjoy the extra words this week!

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