Sarah Burns ("Enlightened," "Drunk History") joins Cole and Vanessa to chat about Ke$ha vs. Kesha, True Detective, Obama and Between Two Ferns, Pinwheel, O'Douls, Simon: The Movie, Legal Beagles, chutney, dangerous Barney activities, the Gottis, being Jen Kirkman's voice, and Sarah's truly sad day.

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