On today's pod Shwin and Prez are joined by Mark Schindler to discuss why Thibs' recent training camp comments are unnerving, what optimizing the Knicks' roster looks like, can Isaiah Hartenstein actually push Mitch to become the starting 5, how comfortable are the Pacers leaning into a full rebuild, could Garland and Mitchell create some defensive issues in the short-term for the Cavs, the Magic's emerging frontcourt, and much more!

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