In Chicago, I meet Ric Gazarian, who also travels a lot. And then he's hosting a podcast called Counting Countries, where he talks to some of the few that has traveled to all the countries in the world - or are very close to having done so.

On a sidewalk café in downtown Chicago, we meet for a chat about Ric's own story as an avid traveler and how he finds the balance of traveling a lot and still maintaining a home base in Bangkok where he lives now.

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