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Podcast #73: Therese Giehse


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In this episode of our podcast, DLS co-founder Katy Derbyshire brings us the story of  Therese Giehse, a German actor, pacifist and exile known for founding an anti-Nazi cabaret (which, really, we could all get behind these days). Therese had artistic and other adventures with her lover Erika Mann (daughter of Thomas Mann), was photographed by Annemarie Schwarzenbach, and embodied several of Bertolt Brecht’s best-known characters on stage. She also acted in movies with Vivien Leigh and previous DLS star Romy Schneider.

Born in Munich in 1898, she went against her liberal Jewish family’s expectations to train as an actor, cast as older characters even as a young woman. The Pfeffermühle cabaret started up in 1933, swiftly moving to Zürich to escape the Nazis. With Erika and Klaus Mann, Giehse toured the political show around Europe, never mentioning any names but using parables and storytelling to rip the piss out of Hitler and his henchmen. 

Therese returned to Zürich in 1937, where she joined the outstanding cast at the Schauspielhaus theatre, many of them also emigrants like her. During the war, she performed in the premiere staging of Brecht’s anti-war play Mother Courage, defining the title role in what some directors have called the greatest play of the 20th century. 

She went on working with Brecht and other key playwrights and directors after 1945, in Munich, Zürich and East Berlin. Therese Giehse maintained her pacifist stance throughout her life, criticizing the Vietnam War at public events. She died in 1975 and is buried with her sister in Zürich.

Also available on SpotifyApple Podcastsand Pocket Casts. You can download the transcript, created by Susan, here.

Show notes:

Therese singing Brecht’s “Mutter Beimlein hat ein Holzbein”
Young Therese Gift
Therese at 21
Therese’s teacher, Toni Wittels-Stury
In her conehead costume in Munich
“Crazy owl” Hitler and his Beer Hall Putsch cronies
Erika Mann, Annemarie Schwarzenbach, Klauss Mann gondola-ing through Venice
Erika in her Pierrot mode
The Peppermill cabaret gang (Therese in her big coat, with Erika and Klaus down in front)
Therese as “Stupidity”
Therese in exile, by Annemarie Schwarzenbach
Handsome hat-wearer (and husband) John Hampson, by Howard Coster
The American edition of the Peppermill was not a success.
Therese originated the titular role in Brecht’s Mother Courage.
The stunning Marianne Hoppe in 1935
Romy and Therese in Mädchen in Uniform (1958)
Therese in Dürrenmatt plays
Therese Giehse in Münchner Geschichten
Therese’s final film was Black Moon (1975)

Our theme music is “Little Lily Swing” by Tri-Tachyon.

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The Dead Ladies ShowBy Katy Derbyshire, Susan Stone & Florian Duijsens