In arguably the most fascinating discussion to date, James and Dave sit down for a crossover episode with Kelly McFarland, Ph.D., of Georgetown University and the Diplomatic Immunity podcast. Learn more about the role of diplomacy and how it has shaped US foreign policy in Part 1 and hear some incredible stories in Part 2 from the man who provided the daily briefing for then Secretary of State John Kerry, as well as his thoughts on footwear, an epic high school football story, and a cameo from his British colleague, Alistair Somerville, who we learned is not a character on Ted Lasso.