Referrals: this week we reflect on why sitting in a room can be knackering even if you do have drugs ... when something isn't just good it's gooood, Ginette arranges a surprise guest appearance at Trainer Talk Live to help celebrate ten years of The Trainers Training Company and we find out what Uncle Bulgaria's got to do with it all. Our top of mind topic is all about referrals, which unsurprisingly leads us to talking about niches (again), before Sharon confesses to kicking even more varieties of wildlife out of the way on her dog walk. Last but not least, we got some fan mail!