In this episode of The Smart Energy Podcast, MatthewJones sits down with Bob Hawes, CEO of Business Hunter — the peak body representing one of Australia’s most energy-critical and economically strategic regions.

They unpack:

– Why the Hunter is central to Australia’s shift from coalto renewables
– The infrastructure gridlock threatening regional growth
– How social infrastructure and skilled trades are the most overlooked engines of future prosperity
– And the real transition challenge: workforce, housing, and identity.

Whether you’re in energy, trades, investment, or policy —this episode reveals what’s really at stake in the regional transformation.

Visit: www.matthewjjonesofficial.com — that’s Matthew with two T’s.
This is how you protect your energy and lead with strategy.