Conflict happens. The question is — can you stay composed when your energy crashes and pressure spikes?

In this episode of The Smart Energy Podcast, I sit down with Gabe Karp — conflict resolution expert, former litigator, and bestselling author of Don’t Get Mad at Penguins.

We dive into:

• How to respond when emotions escalate fast

• What to do when you're drained but must lead

• The energy strategy behind real-time confrontation

This is clarity under pressure — straight from someone who trains Fortune 500 executives to lead through conflict.

Special thanks to JT Foxx for facilitating this conversation.

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