In this episode of the Medya News podcast, Erem Kansoy discusses the current historical moment with Mahmoud Patel, an activist and the chairperson of the Kurdish Human Rights Action Group in South Africa. Patel examines the differences and similarities between the opportunities posed by Abdullah Öcalan’s recent ‘Call for Peace and Democracy’ from within İmralı prison, and the historic negotiations between the apartheid regime and Nelson Mandela on South Africa’s Robben Island.