In this episode of The Insider, host and Mail Tribune web editor Ryan Pfeil talks to education reporter Kaylee Tornay about her story "Patience and Separation."

It's a love story that spans thousands of miles and takes a look at the effects of the legal immigration slowdown on a local woman and her husband, a DACA recipient whose status recently expired. He is waiting in Mexico while pursuing a legal path to residency.

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